Men and women: things I learned this week.
So we’re hanging out in the lounge room - me, Tom and the Dutch neanderthal - just talking shit after watching TV, and in walks a new person. She’s a tall twenty-something redhead, and she’s on her way to her room but the neanderthal convinces her to come in and talk with us anyway. Let’s call her Stacey. As it turns out she’s in town for a zoology conference and works on seahorses. Thus follows an hour long conversation revolving around seahorses and exactly what it is she’s been doing to them throughout the course of her master’s - as usual in these situations, all the guys will stop and listen to anything she says, and she, being a grad student, wants to tell everyone about her work. This lasts until 2am, when Tom is ready for bed and wants us to go with him so we don’t wake him up when we come in. The neanderthal stays up for a while with the girl, Stacey, which seems to be his right as Alpha Male.
None of these people, I must add, are actually that annoying. Even Mr Dutch Neanderthal has a gooey nougat center.
So the night ends with the neanderthal coming in and asking us ‘would you f**k her? I would f**k her for sure.’ The next night A. has left, and in his place is some Scottish guy and the same conversation happens. We’re up late and Stacey comes in. This time she has the timetable for her conference and reads the titles aloud as we’re talking: ‘body temperature fluctuations in the laughing kookaburra’… ‘phenotypic plasticity in the saltwater gland of crocodiles’ and so on. We talk to the Scottish guy but are always interrupted by some interesting bit from Stacey’s zoology conference or another story about seahorses. She obviously laps up the male attention and poses on the couch.
So after a while, Stacey goes to bed and Mr Neanderthal does the sexual innuendo thing again. And the results are interesting. I will now tabulate the data from both the first and second sampling efforts:
Tom: “she’s good-looking but she talks too much. I wouldn’t want to be with someone like that.”
Mr Scottish: “I walked in and you guys were talking about seahorses. I wanted to get up and walk away but I thought it would be rude.”
Dutch: “I would f**k her but I would put a rag in her mouth or something to keep her from talking.”
These are the sorts of things men say when women aren’t around. It’s ordinary. I was still surprised by how unanimously they agreed that Stacey was annoying, though. Tom even seemed to dislike talkative women on principle, and he himself never shut up (nor did he have much choice when it came to women I suspect, on account of he was short and stumpy). Really the conversation was interesting, and more so because it meant so much to her. I might be biased because I like talking about biology but it amazed me, that quick pronouncement: ’she’s gorgeous but I wish she would shut the hell up’.
There are men, I think, who have a hard time being friends with women, and people who don’t like hearing about things that other people are interested in - and there are also men who like to own the conversation, like it’s their place. I’m still trying to figure out what all this means. It has me a little bit convinced that I’m getting way less than I deserve…
resolved to take a page from the neanderthal book next time.
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Sounds like intimidation and that they got too close to the Sun to handle its flares.
Anyway, so what is this “talks too much”? Where is the threshhold exactly? I’d like to know so it doesn’t sound like I’m trying to hone in on the voices in my own head.
Comment by Switch — Friday December 9 2005 @ 11:54 am
Yeah, there really are guys that have a hard time being friends with women, or at least respecting and listening to what they have to say. I suppose that would go hand in hand really.
I have the opposite problem, the ability to be friends with women but being very unsuccesful otherwise.
Comment by mintox — Friday December 9 2005 @ 7:53 pm
I don’t think I’ll ever understand either.
*sits back and waits for the aliens to arive*
Comment by nailpolishblues — Friday December 9 2005 @ 10:38 pm
I get on famously with women. Grr. All of my bloody friends are women. Maybe that’s why I’m single!
Comment by James — Friday December 9 2005 @ 10:41 pm
But anyhoo.. you’re still thinking of women in NZ when there’s actually tens of millions of other available sexual partners? That’s admirable!
Comment by James — Friday December 9 2005 @ 11:39 pm
What is it with rednuts and their inability to shut the hell up? Why can’t they just be normal!? Damn rednuts.
Comment by misha — Monday December 12 2005 @ 8:13 pm
Rednuts? I’ve always known them to be bloodnuts.
Comment by Switch — Wednesday December 14 2005 @ 9:30 am